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		<title>By: ezealot</title>
		<link>http://epicureanzealot.com/2009/06/18/perfect-spaghetti-recipe/#comment-533</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know those tomatoes and don&#039;t normally like them. These are the one&#039;s I&#039;d use:

http://www.amazon.com/Italbrand-San-Marzano-Tomatoes-Ounce/dp/B000N17T4G/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1321318189&amp;sr=8-14]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know those tomatoes and don&#8217;t normally like them. These are the one&#8217;s I&#8217;d use:</p>
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		<title>By: tara</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, the olive oil may have been the culprit.

These are the only San Marzano tomatoes I have been able to find so far (I live in Alaska!)... are they legit??

http://www.amazon.com/San-Marzano-Tomatoes-Whole-Peeled/dp/B0001K5MGG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1321317901&amp;sr=8-5]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, the olive oil may have been the culprit.</p>
<p>These are the only San Marzano tomatoes I have been able to find so far (I live in Alaska!)&#8230; are they legit??</p>
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		<title>By: ezealot</title>
		<link>http://epicureanzealot.com/2009/06/18/perfect-spaghetti-recipe/#comment-531</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tara,

It sounds like you might have gotten a bad batch of tomatoes. Make certain the tomatoes are not just San Marzano, but also have the D.O.P label from Italy. The ones in the blue can are may favorite. Also, sometimes old olive oil can get rancid. Keep it all fresh! Good luck. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll get it. This is no-fail with the right parts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tara,</p>
<p>It sounds like you might have gotten a bad batch of tomatoes. Make certain the tomatoes are not just San Marzano, but also have the D.O.P label from Italy. The ones in the blue can are may favorite. Also, sometimes old olive oil can get rancid. Keep it all fresh! Good luck. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll get it. This is no-fail with the right parts.</p>
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		<title>By: tara</title>
		<link>http://epicureanzealot.com/2009/06/18/perfect-spaghetti-recipe/#comment-530</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just tried this a couple of days ago and it had a kind of weird metallic taste.  Bad batch of canned tomatoes, maybe?  I used San Marzano (brand) tomatoes... or maybe something weird with the dried chilis I used (from an Asian food store)?  I&#039;ll give it another shot but it was just kind of... off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just tried this a couple of days ago and it had a kind of weird metallic taste.  Bad batch of canned tomatoes, maybe?  I used San Marzano (brand) tomatoes&#8230; or maybe something weird with the dried chilis I used (from an Asian food store)?  I&#8217;ll give it another shot but it was just kind of&#8230; off.</p>
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		<title>By: hubert</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 01:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey- is it possible to see what craigs original recipe is? I&#039;ve tried yours and it works fantastic! thank you so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey- is it possible to see what craigs original recipe is? I&#8217;ve tried yours and it works fantastic! thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 03:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a relief to find this! I am putting together a book of recipes for my sister for her wedding gift. She isn&#039;t very experienced, but I know that her mother in law to be would be uber impressed that she has a few legit dishes she can make. Thanks for the info!

-Crystal
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a relief to find this! I am putting together a book of recipes for my sister for her wedding gift. She isn&#8217;t very experienced, but I know that her mother in law to be would be uber impressed that she has a few legit dishes she can make. Thanks for the info!</p>
<p>-Crystal<br />
<a href="http://www.cajunbarbecue.com" rel="nofollow">Propane Burners</a></p>
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		<title>By: goolie</title>
		<link>http://epicureanzealot.com/2009/06/18/perfect-spaghetti-recipe/#comment-250</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s more about Early Girl, interesting stuff they seem to be particularly popular in the Bay Area (go figure):  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Girl#cite_note-14.  Now I think I understand why they are not canned, at least not via a widely available vendor.  

So, I rashly tried this out tonight and I&#039;m happy to say that while the result was def. not comparable to Delfina, it&#039;s the closest I&#039;ve ever gotten and it was delicious.  My fiancée said it was the best tomato pasta I&#039;d ever made!  I don&#039;t think I&#039;m ever going to make tomato pasta any other way...

I used the brand  I usually buy and had on hand, Glen Muir canned tomatoes, which IMO are excellent.  High quality and very fresh and bright tasting.  I bought a can of San Marzano DOP (from Italy!) and I think I actually prefer Glen Muir, but the jury is still out.  Out of the can, I thought the San marzanos tasted heavier, darker, and &quot;cannier&quot; then the Glen Muir, but maybe cooking brings out their best.

I think the most significant thing your direction helped me out with was that I got that creamy texture to the pasta/sauce mixture, which I now understand is due to a) the high olive oil content in the sauce, and b) cooking the pasta in that sauce.  I think this results in the pasta absorbing some of the oil as well...   Also that low and slow on the garlic and peppers turns out the complex hotness I was scratching my head over.  

If I can now just get the real brand of canned tomatoes they use, I think we&#039;re in business!!

Next, I have to find out how Delfina Pizzeria makes their pizza sauce!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s more about Early Girl, interesting stuff they seem to be particularly popular in the Bay Area (go figure):  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Girl#cite_note-14" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Girl#cite_note-14</a>.  Now I think I understand why they are not canned, at least not via a widely available vendor.  </p>
<p>So, I rashly tried this out tonight and I&#8217;m happy to say that while the result was def. not comparable to Delfina, it&#8217;s the closest I&#8217;ve ever gotten and it was delicious.  My fiancée said it was the best tomato pasta I&#8217;d ever made!  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m ever going to make tomato pasta any other way&#8230;</p>
<p>I used the brand  I usually buy and had on hand, Glen Muir canned tomatoes, which IMO are excellent.  High quality and very fresh and bright tasting.  I bought a can of San Marzano DOP (from Italy!) and I think I actually prefer Glen Muir, but the jury is still out.  Out of the can, I thought the San marzanos tasted heavier, darker, and &#8220;cannier&#8221; then the Glen Muir, but maybe cooking brings out their best.</p>
<p>I think the most significant thing your direction helped me out with was that I got that creamy texture to the pasta/sauce mixture, which I now understand is due to a) the high olive oil content in the sauce, and b) cooking the pasta in that sauce.  I think this results in the pasta absorbing some of the oil as well&#8230;   Also that low and slow on the garlic and peppers turns out the complex hotness I was scratching my head over.  </p>
<p>If I can now just get the real brand of canned tomatoes they use, I think we&#8217;re in business!!</p>
<p>Next, I have to find out how Delfina Pizzeria makes their pizza sauce!</p>
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		<title>By: goolie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks so much!  This is my favorite dish in the whole world and I can&#039;t wait to try your version of it.

Clarification question:  You say, &quot;There are two ways I approach this. The maid taught me to pour them through my hand, grinding them up before adding them to the sauce. Craig uses a food mill after the tomatoes are cooked. I actually prefer Craig’s method here.&quot; 

So, is Craig&#039;s method to:  1) do up the oil &amp; garlic as you said, 2) pour tomatoes into oil, and then 3) put everything through the foodmill?  I&#039;m confused by &quot;... after the tomatoes are cooked&quot;, like are the tomatoes cooked separately and then put through the mill into the oil, or what i outlined above.

I&#039;ve been asking the waitstaff about the recipe, the last one told me that they use &quot;early girl&quot; tomatoes, which are the first picked tomatoes of the season and are said to the be the sweetest, tastiest tomatoes of the year.   But, they told me at bi-right that they didn&#039;t know about anyone who canned &#039;em.  And a prior waitperson confirmed they use canned.  Sigh. 

I would love to get Craig&#039;s original recipe!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much!  This is my favorite dish in the whole world and I can&#8217;t wait to try your version of it.</p>
<p>Clarification question:  You say, &#8220;There are two ways I approach this. The maid taught me to pour them through my hand, grinding them up before adding them to the sauce. Craig uses a food mill after the tomatoes are cooked. I actually prefer Craig’s method here.&#8221; </p>
<p>So, is Craig&#8217;s method to:  1) do up the oil &amp; garlic as you said, 2) pour tomatoes into oil, and then 3) put everything through the foodmill?  I&#8217;m confused by &#8220;&#8230; after the tomatoes are cooked&#8221;, like are the tomatoes cooked separately and then put through the mill into the oil, or what i outlined above.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been asking the waitstaff about the recipe, the last one told me that they use &#8220;early girl&#8221; tomatoes, which are the first picked tomatoes of the season and are said to the be the sweetest, tastiest tomatoes of the year.   But, they told me at bi-right that they didn&#8217;t know about anyone who canned &#8216;em.  And a prior waitperson confirmed they use canned.  Sigh. </p>
<p>I would love to get Craig&#8217;s original recipe!!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting.   I&#039;ll have to give this a try.   Do you know if Craig uses basil in his version?   I could swear that I make out bits of it sometimes when I get it at Delfina.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting.   I&#8217;ll have to give this a try.   Do you know if Craig uses basil in his version?   I could swear that I make out bits of it sometimes when I get it at Delfina.</p>
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		<title>By: ezealot</title>
		<link>http://epicureanzealot.com/2009/06/18/perfect-spaghetti-recipe/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ezealot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carolyn, I couldn&#039;t agree more. I&#039;ve made Marcella&#039;s sauce for years. She is my superhero. In my opinion, it&#039;s a totally different animal than this sauce. The butter sauce is fruity, sweet and gobble-able. I think it is best served as a topping for ravioli and fresh pasta, versus dried spaghetti. Plays well with the ricotta and the pillowy nature of the pasta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. I&#8217;ve made Marcella&#8217;s sauce for years. She is my superhero. In my opinion, it&#8217;s a totally different animal than this sauce. The butter sauce is fruity, sweet and gobble-able. I think it is best served as a topping for ravioli and fresh pasta, versus dried spaghetti. Plays well with the ricotta and the pillowy nature of the pasta.</p>
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